“They do seem to have a really tight echo chamber aspect about that paper…”
I’m not on tenterhooks, though I’ll be interested to see what Evan Jones comes up with. I was amazed though that after all their studies over the years, that Anthony is currently shocked to find that a fairly large fraction are not reporting at all.
A global absolute temperature is something one should not try to measure. I argue this often, eg about USHCN. It’s concisely expressed in this GISS FAQ (near the end).
What McKitrick’s paper never deals with is that what is published is the average anomaly, which is something different, and perfectly calculable.
The hot water temperature that drove the devastating bleaching on the Great Barrier Reef this year was made 175 times more likely by human-caused climate change, and could be normal in just 18 years.
The scientists said they took the unusual step of releasing the work prior to peer-review, because the methods used to reach the findings are now accepted in the climate science community and the alarming results needed to be released as quickly as possible”.
Note –“We are confident in the results because these kind of attribution studies are well established”
But they also said
“Coral reefs have had a crucial role in shaping the ecosys-tems that have dominated tropical oceans over the past 200 million years.coral reefs are critical to the survival of tropical marine ecosystems ”
Look at the big picture. Coral reefs have existed for 200 million years according to this article and one could imagine have existed for a billion years The earliest life forms, stromatolites are 3.5 billion years old and similar life style to corals.
The sea gets hotter in Queensland it becomes more tropical in Sydney, the corals move down the coast. When they spawn the coral can travel 50 to 100 kilometers in days .
Getting hotter in one locale does not stop them moving and adapting. Never has.
The current reef has only been there 10,000 years doe to sea level rise.
Coral reefs are a 90 billion dollar source of income in the Caribbean, 1 Billion in Australia, tourism alone, they are an essential source of protein for many millions of the worlds poorer societies.
This article focuses on damage only at one spot and not on benefits and natural mitigation that also occur elsewhere.
ATTP Sorry to give that impression
angech wrote “Causality is not that straightforward a concept to define,” A little disagreement in the ranks.”
If you think I am going to rise to the bait after the display of disingenuous behaviour on the other thread (the most charitable interpretation of which is that you aren’t even honest with yourself), you are mistaken. Especially if you are going to employ a ruse as transparent as “A little disagreement in the ranks”.
Dikran, I remember playing Bridge in Melbourne 30 years ago, novices [still] from the country. In a prolonged bidding scenario by the other side I put my 4th pass on the next row of lines down instead of the fourth square on the top line.
” Director! “This person is giving information to his partner.”
I had no clue.
A similar episode in high school 13 year old when the teacher asked “”Anyone else have anything to say?
A visit to the headmaster for a caning left Mr Disingenuous a little wiser to the ways of the world.
I apologize, did not realize I was using a ruse I am truly naive at times.
September 12th, 2016 at 9:20 pm