Vale Vic Carroll, giant of journalism

Andrew Clark
Andrew ClarkSenior Writer
Tributes have poured in for Vic Carroll, a legendary Australian newspaper editor and a significant influence on the emergence of the modern Australian economy, who died early on Tuesday morning in Sydney. He was 94.

Mr Carroll was editor and editor-in-chief of The Australian Financial Review and The National Times from 1964-75, and editor-in-chief of The Sydney Morning Herald from 1970-84.

Born in the north Queensland coastal city of Mackay, he moved from stockbroking to work in newspapers from the 1950s until the late 1980s. He had been a gunner in the Australian Army in Papua New Guinea and Borneo in World War Two.

Chris Anderson, who succeeded Carroll as editor-in chief of The Sydney Morning Herald in 1984, and is a former chief executive of Optus, described him as “the greatest editor Australia has ever had”.

According to Greg Hywood, a former managing director of Fairfax Media (since taken over by Nine), Carroll was “the Godfather of modern Australian journalism”.

“The greatest editor Australia has ever had”. Vic Carroll was described as a great teacher, an original thinker and the person who led the Financial Review to explore the development of the national economy and Australia’s relations with the world. Supplied

Trevor Kennedy, a Carroll protégé who was the foundation editor of the (now defunct) National Times, was editor of The Bulletin magazine, and later managing director of Kerry Packer’s Australian Consolidated Press, described him as the “most innovative editor” in Australia since World War Two.

In a joint statement, Michael Stutchbury, editor-in-chief of the Financial Review, and Paul Bailey, the paper’s editor, said Carroll’s Financial Review was a “confident and substantial” newspaper “but also irreverent in an Australian larrikin sense”.

“Vic Carroll remains the foundation stone of The Australian Financial Review as Australia’s first national newspaper,” the two said.

He “recognised that the nation’s business publication had to cast its gaze beyond dusty and fusty financial scribbling to be about the development of the national economy and hence the nation itself and its relations with the world”.

“Gathering a rat pack of pioneering journalists such as Max Walsh, Peter Robinson, Max Suich and Trevor Sykes, the Financial Review built the case to force business to compete freely in the global economy, rather than be shielded behind an anti-import wall.

“Just as it changed Australia for the better, Carroll’s foundation has helped the Financial Review remain upright through the internet-era opening up of the media market.

“By remaining true to the sense of purpose handed down to the following generations of editors, the Financial Review continues to commercially prosper by focusing on the economic prosperity of the nation.”

According to Chris Anderson, Carroll “understood newspapers and he dragged Australia into the modern world. He used to say ‘follow the money and you’ll find out what is happening’. He had a mind like a steel trap.

“I loved him dearly.”

For Trevor Kennedy, Carroll was “a great teacher” and “a very original thinker. He even recruited people from the letters pages like John Edwards” who worked as a journalist on the Financial Review, has been a banking economist, adviser to former Labor Prime Minister and Treasurer Paul Keating, an author, and a Reserve Bank Board member.

Staunch support

Carroll “was also among the first to honestly recognise women as equal in every respect in the business”, Mr Kennedy said.

Max Suich, who was editor of The National Times and chief editorial executive of the John Fairfax and Sons Media group, which published the Financial Review and The Sydney Morning Herald, recalled Carroll’s staunch support for the late Evan Whitton’s hard-hitting analysis of Australia’s military involvement in the Vietnam War, and published around the time of North Vietnam’s victory in April 1975.

Publication of the highly critical series “led to suggestions from [Fairfax boss] Rupert Henderson and [company chairman] Sir Warwick Fairfax that Vic, Evan Whitton and the editor (me) be sacked”, Suich said

However, the company’s circulation department “produced a bullish estimate of near-record sales of the issue with the first part of the series. I never inquired whether the estimate proved to be correct. Nor did Vic”.

“He admonished with silence and rarely offered praise. When editor of The National Times I once complained that a story idea had failed. ‘It should have worked. It was a good idea,’ I said. ‘Good ideas work,’ he pointed out.

“When invited to be a member of the Australian Journalism Hall of Fame, he said: ‘I’m not much interested in fame.’ Carroll was “rightly” included, despite his lack of interest, Mr Suich said.

Mr Hywood, who is also a former editor-in-chief of the Financial Review and the Herald, said Carroll “fought for the editorial independence that the profession now takes for granted. Australians enjoy the benefits of his legacy every day”.

Italian unravelled

Italian is a romantic language and a complete language in that it has been refined over the last 2 thousand years from its predecessor , Latin, and is not easily prone to change. German and French are the same. English is a developing language and is both changing and complex. So in learning Italian one has to simplify many English expressions into one.  English has mixed in Gaelic, Latin and German/Dutch components from various occupations, both military and religious and is still able to accommodate new words from it’s Commonwealth and colonial times.

The theme today is to help understand the difference between transitive and intransitive verbs which is important for the use of verbs in the past tense.

Also to throw a light on how languages are made up and insight into the words used.
This came about as I was trying to describe a trip overseas on an aeroplane.
I went abroad on an aeroplane. I flew in the sky.
Sono andato all éstero su un aero. Ho voluto nel cielo.
The plane took off and landed several times.
L’aero e decollato ed e atterrato più volte?
The plane did a loop the loop and made a bank to the left.
L’aero ha fatto il giro dell’anello e ha fatto una sponda a sinestra.

The interesting words here  are take off and landing both of which refer to an action [verbs are action] affecting only the subject itself hence taking essere in the past tense. These verbs are intransitive. An intransitive verb is a verb that does not take a direct object.

Transitive verbs use avere which goes with verbs that have an object. As in I hit the ball, subject Myself, action hitting, object the ball. A transitive verb because the subject is not moving and the object is being affected.

Sometimes the subject is not visible in the sentence but it is implied. An object, the plane, is needed to be able to fly in the sky. hence the past uses avere not essere.

Now a terra is a way of saying “to ground or earth” in Italian . In this case going to ground has changed into a verb “to land” as in to land.   Atterrare. Atterro I land

da collo means from the neck or from the hill and was also an old english term for beheading.  As a verb in Italian it means both to take off from the ground or to take off a head.   Decollere. Decollo I take off.

I hope this small example helps you progress in leaps and bounds. or “a passi da gigante.”  In giant steps.





ice and maths


Arctic ice. Melting away at an incredible rate or just a fiction.

Satellite records, used in the past by the IPCC from 1973 but now only shown from 1979 show a rapidly decreasing ice pack with occasional large drops and some smaller large gains.

What should the actual volume be in a world with a an average annual global temperature of say14.8 C. How much different would it have been 168 years ago with an average temp of 14 C How much should have melted in in that time. How much should it be melting per year?

Now the gist of the problem. How much variability per year and per 10 years and per 30 years is involved in the melting? A recent small event documented in the Arctic Sea Ice blogs [Neven] shows the problem acutely.

Those poor souls who like to watch yacht races or grass growing have nothing on ice watchers. This year there was an incredible fuss about whether we would have the lowest satellite extent on record [just failed]

1.1111     9.9999 = 11

o.000 actually moust be 0.0000 pos or neg

Natural variability in the Arctic Sea Ice Extent

This metric is often used as a metaphor for global warming as the Arctic Sea Ice has suffered several large falls in the last 4 decades on top of a general decline.

However analysis of events show an alarming under-assessment of the actual amount of natural variability  that can occur. This in turn throws doubt on how reliable the actual data patterns are.

The first domino was a rise of the total global sea ice to the highest level for that metric in December 2014 when it briefly, after 30 years of records and 30 years of global warming attained that record. At that time the Antarctic Ice had made a concerted rise of over 2 1/2 SD and in conjunction with a reasonable Arctic extent passed all satellite recorded levels for that time of year.

 The Antarctic then dropped to a 2 1/2 SD low in less than a year leading to a 3 year period of lower than normal extent which in combination with a big drop in extent of Arctic ice in 2016  led to a nearly 8 SD variation in less than 2 years.

That is an amazing amount if the SD are correct. It is something that should happen only once in 500 years and would indicated, if correct, warming on an unexpected scale.

Cue this year with the Arctic ice. Despite gloomy prognostications based on a low winter maximum extent, the ice, aided by an unexpectedly large volume for the extent refused to shrink and ended up the 6th lowest for the summer. It then failed to freeze up as expected, dropping to the 2nd lowest recovery extent for a few days before a massive rise from 2nd to 13th place over 3 weeks of freezing with many days over 100,000 sq K despite above average arctic air temperatures.

No sooner than it had done this it went into hibernation for 2 weeks dropping back to second lowest. A small recovery and then today one of the largest increases I have seen, vis.


(JAXA)] ASI Extent.December 16th, 2018:     11,752,725 km2, an increase of 263,728 km2.     2018 is now the 9th lowest on record.

My observation is this, with movement ranges mid melting or freezing varying between negative to 270,000 sq K in a single day, with ice volumes going from 2 1/2 plus SD to -5 in 2 years we do not have a handle on the year to year let alone decadal Arctic and global sea ice extents. The causes of melt and freeze are much more than simple air temperature or albedo, the currents and the temperatures they run at up to a year after they come from the tropics are very poorly understood.

My suggestion to both sides is that they are best not used to support the global warming theory as the variabilty is too great to make any satisfactory argument either way.

Yo yo ice, probability and natural variation..

While everyone has been focusing on CO2 and MGST a funny thing has been happening [at the forum] with the sea ice extents this last 8 months. Which should cause some scratching of heads and readjustments in the range we currently give to natural variability, in our assessment of the causes of sea ice growth and the reliability of Arctic and Antarctic temperature recording.

2018 had the lowest winter maximum extent of the last 40 years of the satellite record despite a promising early regrowth. As such it was expected that it could set a new low record for the minimum summer extent comparable to that of 2016. Arctic temperatures fluctuated much higher than average though possibly on a par with the last 4 years during the melting season. Robust claims were made but the ice stubbornly refused to play along. Arctic hurricanes and large sea swells were predicted to break it up very quickly but the ice stubbornly sat there melting very slowly on top of an even more unexpected  slow volume loss.

Consequently when the minimum arrived despite the heroic high temperatures it had gone from the lowest maximum extent to the 8th lowest minimum in September. Skeptics were crowing and then it refused to refreeze dropping rapidly to the second lowest recovering extent in October.

Then weirdness set in with pockets of quick refreeze in November in areas, Barents and Chukchi, which were sadly lacking the previous year. The East Siberian Sea, stalwart in not melting early but a long slow late melt refroze overnight [well not quite but rapidly]. The Hudson Bay started to freeze and November offered up an impossible freezing sequence of 16 days of way well above average freezing rates despite the high temperatures. From 2nd lowest to 13th or 14th lowest in that time. Unprecedented, alarming freezing. The trend went from below 2010 to equal to the 2010 average and then, almost, to the 2000 average in that 16 days. Why? Silence.

As suddenly as it did the freeze it stopped. 2 weeks of below par freezing brought it back to the 2nd lowest. Then two human comedies. NASA mucked up with a graph on incomplete data that showed an impossible regrowth day that took 3 days to correct. Finally the last week into December. Ice growth recouped again helped by a shuffle at the end of December where growth rates are reset by the algorithms they use which give a jump to reflect an offset that develops each month [Masking].

Currently we sit in 8th place with a steep rise occurring and looking likely to continue.

What is to like? A recovery of sorts from the warm weather and currents stimulated by the 2016 El Nino and the 2017 rewarmth has occurred as expected due to the warming lag in these events finally wearing off. Further melting rate increase might occur in 4 months when the 2018 baby El Nino currents again reach the Arctic. This recovery might be big enough to give all concerned pause for thought as to how we should be assessing Arctic variability.

What is not to like? When 16 days can give a fluctuation that should normally take 10 or more years to develop without due cause [unpredicted, unprecedented] The problem is not with the fluctuations but the concept of how much natural variation is actually capable of occurring. These results strongly suggest that variability in the Arctic is much greater than the trends of the last 40 years predict.

The take home message is good for both sides. The last 10 years of data show a slowdown or pause in melting which might be the bottom of a cycle that is going to turn upwards if we choose to believe in 60 yar cycles. For warmists the fact that such large fluctuations can exist [independent of CO2 and surface temperatures] means there is also an outside chance of further large downward fluctuations.

JAXA ARCTIC EXTENT 6,731,603 km2?October 24, 2018?- Extent is lowest in the satellite record- Extent increase at 156 k is about 55 k ABOVE the average (2008-2017) on this day,
 JAXA ARCTIC EXTENT 6,933,069 km2?October 25, 2018?- Extent is 2nd lowest in the satellite record,
– Extent increase at 201 k is about 110 k ABOVE the average (2008-2017) on this
JAXA ARCTIC EXTENT 7,182,053 km2?October 26, 2018?- Extent is 3rd lowest in the satellite record,
Extent increase at 249 k is nearly 160 k ABOVE the average (2008-2017) on this day,
JAXA ARCTIC EXTENT 8,624,638 km2?November 5, 2018?- Extent is 4th lowest in the satellite record,
JAXA ARCTIC EXTENT 9,278,237 km2?November 14, 2018?– Extent is 6th lowest in the satellite record,
JAXA ARCTIC EXTENT 10,272,807 km2?November 22, 2018?– Extent is 13th lowest in the satellite record.
JAXA ARCTIC EXTENT 11,197,247 km2?December 11, 2018?– Extent is 2nd lowest
 (JAXA)] ASI Extent. December 16th, 2018:   [The error]
     11,752,725 km2, an increase of 263,728 km2.       2018 is now the 9th lowest on record.
JAXA ARCTIC EXTENT 11,752,393 km2?December 22, 2018? – Extent is 4th lowest
JAXA ARCTIC EXTENT 11,871,945 km2?December 28, 2018? – Extent is 2nd lowest JAXA ARCTIC EXTENT 12,590,152 km2?January 4, 2019  – Extent is 8th lowest 







Write it down An idea for a play with multiple scenes featuring flashbacks to people in a life and their effects on the future.

Theme forgotten by me but along the lines of redemption  effect on current life theme will not come why? was very good arrrgh.


Verbs in time and space

Sempre farlo. Always do this. Always do this?

There is one dimension of time and three dimensions of space.
Cé un dimensione di tempo e tre dimensioni di spazio.

The use of verbs is fundamental to speaking Italian but there are major differences in meaning and idiom and style which can only be built up slowly.

All language can be thought of as a composition of three units which form a sentence which is either a question [demand] or an answer [statement]. The units are a subject an object and a link or verb.The rest is descriptive verbiage to modify any or all of the three.

Now in English the language differentiates between a question and an answer by adding the words do [must be] or could [should could be should be] or possibly or want or need how much. what amount when, why, where, who, which and how. A second way is to turn the staement inside out putting the verb in front of the person. Not to mention Well… [tag question]!     An interrogative word or question word is a function word used to ask a question, such as what, when, where, who, whom, why, and how. They are sometimes called wh-words, because in English most of them start with wh-

A particular type of interrogative word is the interrogative particle, which serves to convert a statement into a yes–no question, without having any other meaning. est-ce que in French,  (The English word whether has a similar function but only in indirect questions; and Multicultural London English may use “innit”,  [ I ask whether/ if ] Ask itself.

While these words exist and may be used in Italian,  most statements as said and written can be either a question or an answer. Which is not the case in English. The Italians differentiate by context and intonation, an unwritten emphasis on the loudness of the syllables. A louder personal prefix is more likely to be a question whereas an emphasis on the verb makes it a statement.
When wishing to form a question the Italians otherwise use the 4 modal verbs to want to to need to to be able to and to know how to.

What Is a Question?  This question may seem obvious (clear), but it’s good to review. There are generally three types of sentences: statements, commands and questions. Statements are sentences that state (tell) information:Commands are sentences that give orders (tell people to do actions). This is also sometimes called the “imperative.”Questions are sentences that ask for information. [pinched]  Careful: Exception! If the main verb of the sentence is some form of “to be,” it goes in the auxiliary position. Here are a few examples: Are you ready?


Costs associated trip to Darwin

Dear Fellow Directors     [Bronwyn and David]     ,

I have recently spent 4 days in Darwin helping sort out some of William’s medical and living problems.

Costs incurred were,

The flight to and from Darwin from Melbourne         $818.98
The hire car and insurance                                   $388.50 plus$42.33 petrol
A visit to Paul Maher lawyer re Trust                     Account to be sent to Tong Luck Trust
Clothes, dental products                                       $187 [126, 7.50, 53.90]
2 spare keys for the unit downstairs.                      $16
Respiratory mask and filters                                 $303.28
Dental visits x2   Nightcliff                                     $230  to be paid, $100 to me re                                                                                  16/10/2018 visit, $130 to dentist                                                                              re 19/10/2018 visit.

I would like to request that the Dental Bills are forwarded as they come in to Bronwyn to arrange payment. This will be reasonably expensive unfortunately as he has about 15 fillings, possibly a crown and several teeth stumps to extract. Possibly 3-5,000 over the next 8 months. I will speak to the dentist Monday re emailing the bills

I am happy to pay the costs of the trip part  this time, airfares and car, but will seek reimbursement of these costs on subsequent visits.

I have receipts for some and credit card details for the others if needed. Liz is busy typing up a summary of the visit.

Looking forward to discussing this and some of the other issues from the visit if you can give me a call and we will have to work out a TLT meeting fairly soon.

Yours Sincerely , Harry.

Viv W

My name is Elizabeth Lee. One of my husband’s favourite Aunt’s has asked me to do a small introduction today at the launch of yet another amazing book. So here is a part of her story, mainly an understanding of her,  why she has chosen this story to tell is up to her.

Vivienne Worthington, nee Gathercole, was one of 6 children of Harold and May Gathercole, long term Panton Hill residents. Her families connections go back to the early days of Panton Hill , but obviously not as far back as some, or we would be talking about Gathercole Hill instead. Vivienne spent most of her early life up to 20 here and still returned with her family to the farm at Alma road to see her Mum and Dad every Christmas and in between for 40 years.

Her interest was piqued by coming across a member of the Panton family and realising that Panton Hill had a beginning and history that she was not aware of and many a tale to tell. who were the first settlers, who were the Panton’s, how did the village get it’s name, what happened to them and others in those times and since.

Vivienne was helped in her endeavors by work she had previously done locally on her family tree which led to a lot of local genealogical knowledge.Growing up in Panton Hill she knew people to talk to and had also absorbed  a lot of local knowledge on places in the area and which sites to look up information on.

Vivienne’s passion for writing and history has developed later in her life after meeting her second husband and having the time to devote to writing which he supported. She is one of those people who has taken to the computer age with gusto developing dormant abilities.  She has written a book on the Eureka stockade from a viewpoint of the women involved and one on the Pioneer Bus company, both being related to family members who had involvement. This book fills in an important part of the early pioneering history of this area and community and the people who helped create it .

Serendipity is the term for unexpected fortunate occurrences. I think I will find the book more interesting due to connections with Shepparton where we live to Panton Hill. One of the chemists here for many years was a Panton. And the McPherson family who settled here and ran our newspapers were among the earliest settlers of Panton Hill.

Vivienne has produced another good book to digest.  has developed an easy reading style which encompasses a lot of research yet is still enjoyable to read.
With no further ado I present Mrs Vivienne Worthington.






  • angech says:

    1. “Although CO2 absorbs thermal radiation from the Earth, it emits more. Carbon dioxide is in thermal deficit in terms of radiative balance.”
    CO2 is not the sun. It is not an energy production molecule.
    CO2 absorbs energy, from LW or from collisions. It releases same.
    It cannot emit more than it absorbs in a re-energising environment [energy from the sun.

  • angech says:

    gymnosperm says: October 8, 2018 at 3:34 pm “Trouble is, you’re both right.”
    We have the problem that Roger believes that all is due to Pressure, gravity height and Brandon that CO2 causes all the fuss.
    Impressive scientific arguments for both sides.
    Let us call it a draw with some acknowledgement of Brandon’s argument [yuk].

  • angech says:

    The reality is that pressure, gravity height acting on a body of air of known composition does, must determine the temperature[s] of said body of air.
    However said body of air will differ markedly if its composition included greenhouse gases of any variety, including CO2.
    Not exactly noted by Nikolic but not disputed by him either.
    In other words the heat retaining capacity of CO2 alters the temperature and the height at which CO2 emits to space.
    It does not happen in a vacuum.
    The O2 and N do heat up by collision and receive and transmit energy by collision to and with CO2 molecules.
    You are both right.
    Yeah, as my teenage son would say.
    Acknowledgements welcome.



similar confusing

chiodo nail

also unga from which we get fingernail part ungal in English

scarper to run off escape in E is scarpare to run in I and ? Shoe

shimmy to shake in a dress move so quick hard to see or climb a tree comes from schimmia a monkey in I

So learning  the verb variation  after unsurety the subjunctive.

Just when you thought you know the verbs they throw this in.

Why is it called a mood anyway?a variation of mode or style or way, in time?

Common in Italian, rare in English. Guesses, indefinite may could might should would perhapssubjectivity opposed to objectivity or thought as opposed to action Essere not avere.

Pensare to think credere to believe ( interesting that a belief is not in fact a fact!] sperare to hope dubitare to doubt Valerie to want desiderare to desire avere Laura to be afraid  and non sapere ie to (not) know.

What  others could there be non conoscere and non capiscere.

it is used in secondary joining expressions after an indicative or conditional main clause, joined by che, Perche and the subject of the joint clause is not the subject of the indicative clause

the present covers present and future actions  now and will

replace the present tense first person o with i for are, first 3 tenses and iamo iate and ino for the next 3. Now we iamo is the same in present and subjunctive present future forms the only one.

ere goes to a not i, ire goes to a as well with the plural 3rd person going to ano . iscere (ire) goes to isca and iscano

however if the subject in the dependent clause is the same as in the main clause Di and the infinitive is used (wow) instead of che and the subjunctive

spesso di comprare una auto.

care and gare add an h giocchi,

ciare and giare do not

covered has an irregular dobbiate plural you subjunctive instead of doviate

the plural third person has two usable forms in both indicative and subjunctive devono debbono and devano debbano  as well as this word coming from dove but full of devo roots devo can be debbo and subjunctive is deva or debba